Oddly Strong Interest in Coffee Drinking Angel Moroni
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Strange that a story about a coffee-guzzling Angel Moroni ™ would garner so many hits. Some interesting comments on that story as well:
I decided to try and search out some information on the Angel Moroni ™ being trademarked as well. Using the USPTO Trademark Search Engine, "TESS", I came up with a single hit:
I also did a search for "angel" for which there are many hits, including, interestingly enough, "Angels of Meth," but I couldn't quite work up the gumption to click on the link and find out what they were about. In fact, I did quite a few searches, trying different keyword combinations. Couldn't find anything about the Angel Moroni ™ being a registered trademark.
Anyway, more comments:
Well Alicia, this is what I was able to find out (I left this in the comments of the original story as well):
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The specific reference they're making is from "Doctrine and Covenants 89" which can found on the church website here.
I don't know, Alicia. Is soup really a beverage? I usually "eat" soup with a spoon. But I'll admit that sometimes I "drink" it as though it were a beverage. I also never bathe in soup... But actually, I don't wash with anything that could really be considered a strong drink. Hmm..
In any event, "hot drinks" can be interpreted pretty widely. That's why we have those in positions of "authority" who explain to the rest of us - who are just too stupid to see the obvious I guess -what "hot drinks" is really supposed to mean.
Here's an interesting passage, too:
I don't see this stuff being used only in "times of winter, or of cold, or famine" or sparingly in any way, really. (Apparently if it's a particularly cold summer evening, it's okay..)
In any event, Moroni drinking coffee through his trumpet is still funny as hell to me. But take that with a grain of salt, 'cause I'm pretty sure I won't be joining the party in the Celestial Kingdom.
DS
Salt Lake City, Utah
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Strange that a story about a coffee-guzzling Angel Moroni ™ would garner so many hits. Some interesting comments on that story as well:
I would like to see the actual trademark. I ran a PTO search and found various Church-registered trademarks, but didn't see one involving the angel Moroni. I'm far from an expert in patient/trademark, but I don't want to assume it's true without seeing the proof.
Posted by Voice of Utah (blog) | March 25, 2007 8:31 AM
I decided to try and search out some information on the Angel Moroni ™ being trademarked as well. Using the USPTO Trademark Search Engine, "TESS", I came up with a single hit:
Word Mark MORONI BITTER M CASA FONDATA NEL 1843
Goods and Services (CANCELLED) IC 033. US 049. G & S: Alcoholic Bitters
Mark Drawing Code (3) DESIGN PLUS WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS
Design Search Code 03.01.02 - Lions (heraldic)
20.03.10 - Alcohol bottle labels; Bottles, labels for alcohol bottles; Labels, alcohol bottles
24.07.04 - Medals
24.09.07 - Advertising, banners; Banners
24.11.01 - Crowns closed at the top
Serial Number 73384892
Filing Date September 13, 1982
Current Filing Basis 44E
Original Filing Basis 44E
Published for Opposition February 21, 1984
Registration Number 1278242
Registration Date May 15, 1984
Owner (REGISTRANT) Zucca Rabarzucca S.p.A. CORPORATION ITALY 47 Via Vincenzo da Seregno Milan ITALY
Attorney of Record Marvin R. Stern
Disclaimer No claim is made to the exclusive right to use the words "Bitter" and "Casa Fondata Nel 1843", apart from the mark as shown.
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator DEAD
Cancellation Date October 24, 1990
I also did a search for "angel" for which there are many hits, including, interestingly enough, "Angels of Meth," but I couldn't quite work up the gumption to click on the link and find out what they were about. In fact, I did quite a few searches, trying different keyword combinations. Couldn't find anything about the Angel Moroni ™ being a registered trademark.
Anyway, more comments:
It also doesn't officially say anywhere in the scriptures or what have you that coffee is expressly forbidden. Just says hot beverages. So bye-bye hot chocolate, soup, etc. Silly what get's everybody's panties in a twist, innit?
Posted by Alicia (blog) | March 26, 2007 4:40 PM
Well Alicia, this is what I was able to find out (I left this in the comments of the original story as well):
__________________
The specific reference they're making is from "Doctrine and Covenants 89" which can found on the church website here.
7 And, again, strong drinks are not for the belly, but for the washing of your bodies.
8 And again, tobacco is not for the abody, neither for the belly, and is not good for man, but is an herb for bruises and all sick cattle, to be used with judgment and skill.
9 And again, hot drinks are not for the body or belly.
I don't know, Alicia. Is soup really a beverage? I usually "eat" soup with a spoon. But I'll admit that sometimes I "drink" it as though it were a beverage. I also never bathe in soup... But actually, I don't wash with anything that could really be considered a strong drink. Hmm..
In any event, "hot drinks" can be interpreted pretty widely. That's why we have those in positions of "authority" who explain to the rest of us - who are just too stupid to see the obvious I guess -what "hot drinks" is really supposed to mean.
Here's an interesting passage, too:
12 Yea, aflesh also of bbeasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly;
13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be aused, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.
14 All agrain is ordained for the use of man and of beasts, to be the staff of life, not only for man but for the beasts of the field, and the fowls of heaven, and all wild animals that run or creep on the earth;
15 And these hath God made for the use of man only in times of famine and excess of hunger.
I don't see this stuff being used only in "times of winter, or of cold, or famine" or sparingly in any way, really. (Apparently if it's a particularly cold summer evening, it's okay..)
In any event, Moroni drinking coffee through his trumpet is still funny as hell to me. But take that with a grain of salt, 'cause I'm pretty sure I won't be joining the party in the Celestial Kingdom.
DS
Salt Lake City, Utah
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Labels: Angel Moroni, christianity, Coffee, Dogma, funny, irreverence, Mormonism, religion, Word of Wisdom
This is surely all a tempest in a tea--er coffee pot. "Intellectual Reserve" (as it is called) thinks it has a lock-hold on everything LDS. I wonder if they have consulted all the various permutations of Mormonism out there. Did they talk to the Bickertonites? The Chuch of Temple Lot? The 30 Strangites? The Church of Christ (formerly RLDS?) The various polygamist sects?
It all amuses me, as much as it probably would have amused Golden P. Kimball, who regularly imbibed the devil's brown brew, yet maintained his General Authority status.
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theorris |
March 26, 2007 6:33 PM