Understanding the greenhouse effect

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Sometimes I wonder if I learned the same thing that everyone else learned in school about how our planet operates.

Global warming is political
When we have cloud cover, the Earth below gets 10-15 degrees cooler. Physicists have told me that whether it be CO2 or H2O, the Earth gets cooler, not warmer, when these gases increase in the atmosphere. Why? Because the Earth isn't a greenhouse. A greenhouse has glass walls. It's the glass that traps the heat, not the CO2.
Global warming, if it occurs at all, is a political condition, not a meteorological condition.

Kelly Jarvis
Heber City


Wow I am not even sure where to start with this. First off cloud cover is water droplets. The water droplets are absorbing the light and provide shade thus cooling down the area below. And actually if you have enough humidity (more H20) in the atmosphere it will get warmer - been to Florida recently?

But the basic premise of this letter just pisses me off more from how scientifically incorrect it is. I would be curious exactly which physicists this guy is talking to. The reason certain gases cause the greenhouse effect is due to how elements interact with different light frequencies. Since Mr. Jarvis and physicists friends seem to have all the answers then why don't they tell me why the sky is blue? HMMMM?

The earth atmosphere absolutely does act like a greenhouse, if there wasn't some type of greenhouse effect then nothing could live here and our planet would be cold like the moon. But even with the absence of glass walls the gases in our atmosphere does create a greenhouse effect by not allowing the thermal energy of the sun to escape back into space.

The concern now is that we are adding considerably more gases to the atmosphere thus increasing the greenhouse effect. From a political standpoint I think it is impossible to have this discussion with people that align themselves with a party that has had a long standing war against science. I find it way more effective to talk about the political ramifications of continuing to allow our country to be dependent on countries that hate us for our energy needs. That seems to get through the thickest of Republican heads, even Rep. Urquhart!

Did I mention these people scare me?

Marshall
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Video - 130 degrees in Iraq

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Evidently it is a 130 degrees for the Iraqi government but not for our troops? Beyond stupid. Enjoy that nice sip of water Tony Snow, I am sure our military would like a swig also.

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Video - Republicans object to giving our troops an up or down vote

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Video - Bill O attacks Daily Kos

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The thing that I don't understand about Bill O to this day is that I used to like him, I read all his books, remember the looking out for you books and then 2002 rolled around and he kept just sliding more and more to the right. My politics never changed but he has kept moving more and more to the right which now I guess makes me, a Daily Kos reader, the far left...well at least in respect to him, go figure.

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Video - Wackjobo Talibangelists

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Hat Tip - Part of the Plan

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A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for Satan...

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...or so said Florida Televangelist Bill Keller in his "Daily Devotionals" back in May. With an audience purportedly in the millions, he had this to say about Mormons:
"If you vote for Mitt Romney, you are voting for Satan! This message today is not about Mitt Romney. Romney is an unashamed and proud member of the Mormon cult founded by a murdering polygamist pedophile named Joseph Smith nearly 200 years ago. The teachings of the Mormon cult are doctrinally and theologically in complete opposition to the Absolute Truth of God's Word. There is no common ground."
Wow! Tell us what you really think, Mr. Keller, you preacher of love and tolerance, you!

Showing a little more rhetorical restraint, Dr. R. Albert Mohler, Jr. published an article on "belief.net" entitled, simply, "Mormonism is not Christianity."

He opens with a simple question/answer:
Are Mormons “Christians” as defined by traditional Christian orthodoxy? The answer to that question is easy and straightforward, and it is “no.”
This will, I'm sure, come as somewhat of a shock to Mormons. Going on with the bizarre logic of Christian reasoning he writes:

We are not talking here about the postmodern conception of Christianity that minimizes truth. We are not talking about Christianity as a mood or as a sociological movement. We are not talking about liberal Christianity that minimizes doctrine nor about sectarian Christianity which defines the faith in terms of eccentric doctrines. We are talking about historic, traditional, Christian orthodoxy.

Once that is made clear, the answer is inevitable. Furthermore, the answer is made easy, not only by the structure of Christian orthodoxy (a structure Mormonism denies) but by the central argument of Mormonism itself – that the true faith was restored through Joseph Smith in the nineteenth century in America and that the entire structure of Christian orthodoxy as affirmed by the post-apostolic church is corrupt and false.

It's interesting. The unholy amalgam of evangelicals and neoconservatism, or neoconservagelicals (I keep trying to coin some clever combination, and nothing quite sounds right) - anyway, this unholy union has being tremendously successful over the last 30 years or so.

However, lately it's been having some problems. Some people internal to the various organizations recognize this and have fretted over the "unraveling" of this successful political force. Externally, of course, they're doing all they can to keep this schism under wraps and pretend it is the secular liberals who are biased against Romney's religion. This is, of course, ridiculous. If a secular liberal holds religion in contempt, they probably wouldn't distinguish between one nutjob group and another. The bottom line is that most secularists simply don't care.

The evangelicals though. They do care.

After a token nod to Mormonism, (after all, they are a reliable voting block) he concludes:
Nevertheless, Mormonism is not Christianity by definition or description.
Finally, last week, when I was having trouble sleeping, I stumbled across some late night Christ-o-mercials. One guy was pitching holy water for a "donation." Another preacher, before pitching a series of products, the top-tier being an i-pod which contained sacred music "guaranteed to ward off evil spirits" for a small donation of $1000.00 or more, contemptuously mentioned the Mormons as believing this or that, when they should be believing this or that.

After all of these years, how sad it is that Mormons believe they are embraced by other Christian sects in America. They seem to be quite reviled. As I've said before, they are considered at best misled, at worst, agents of Satan.

It's weird even trying to follow all of this logic. One religion slandering another religion to me is kind of like criticizing Snow White for not being as authentic as Sleeping Beauty. However, it is the world we live in. And we here in Utah, get to see it center stage over the next year. Yay.

DS
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Whitehouse Response to Surgeon General Nauseating

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After Former Surgeon General Richard H. Carmona testified to a Congressional panel (Full Text of his Remarks - PDF) that the Bush administration tried to weaken, amplify or otherwise modify public health reports according to their political agenda, Whitehouse spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore had this to say:
“It’s disappointing to us if he failed to use this position to the fullest extent in advocating for policies he thought were in the best interests of the nation.”
Really.

It's disappointing to you. You know what I find disappointing? An administration with a history littered with documented evidence and open testimony proving top Whitehouse officials actively alter, suppress and exaggerate scientific reports to fit its political agenda and then, when called out by its former Surgeon General, sinking to new depths of moral and intellectual dishonesty by blaming him for crimes they know they're guilty of.

Ms. Lawrimore, you haggard shill, tell me this: Why in the world would the Surgeon General not do his duty to the American people and wait to speak up about them now if what he was not being pressured by administration officials?

Are you really going to go with the "he's incompetent" theme? Better to go with old reliables, like "He's got an axe to grind," or "He has ties to the Ex-owner of a dog whose sisters nephew is a registered Democrat," or really get back to basics and say something like "Suggesting this administration has suppressed scientific research because of its political agenda only emboldens the terrorists and creates the perception that we as a country are not unified in our fight against terror."

Here's an excerpt of his testimony, which I'm hosting locally for you youtube-challenged users out there:





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Video - Chris Cannon why don't you go get a real job

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Utah Amicus puts together an excellent post full of videos about the pathetic Chris Cannon. Here is a quick sample but go over and check out them all.

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You know what I am sick of paying for is Chris' health insurance and pension which is paid for by our tax dollars. I don't get a pension and health insurance...he doesn't get health insurance and a pension, cut everyone in congress off until they understand.

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Video - Chris Cannon makes worst person list

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What an embarr-ass-ment to our state.

Marshall
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Clinton derangement syndrome

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Cross posted to Wasatch Watcher

Who is President RIGHT NOW? Please someone help me out with this. Evidently Congressman Cannon needs a little help with this also, he can barely stay on topic and he is desperately spinning into Clinton derangement syndrome zone.



You know what Cannon...when you get your DAV rating above zero then we can talk, until then STFU.

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President Bush Official Grant of Clemency

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You can find the bottom line, without all of the sickening, ridiculous spinning, at the whitehouse.gov website.
Grant of Executive Clemency
A Proclamation by the President of the United States of America


WHEREAS Lewis Libby was convicted in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in the case United States v. Libby, Crim. No. 05-394 (RBW), for which a sentence of 30 months' imprisonment, 2 years' supervised release, a fine of $250,000, and a special assessment of $400 was imposed on June 22, 2007;

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GEORGE W. BUSH, President of the United States of America, pursuant to my powers under Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, do hereby commute the prison terms imposed by the sentence upon the said Lewis Libby to expire immediately, leaving intact and in effect the two-year term of supervised release, with all its conditions, and all other components of the sentence.

IN WITNESS THEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand this second day of July, in the year of our Lord two thousand and seven, and of the Independence of the United States of America the two hundred and thirty-first.

GEORGE W. BUSH

"..in the year of our Lord two thousand and seven.." President Bush abandoned yet another principle, his tattered promises of integrity weighing on a weary nation, further cementing his shameful legacy and the darkening of American morality.

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President Bush commutes jail sentence of Scooter Libby

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CNN just sent me this little shocker:
"President Bush commutes the jail sentence of I. Lewis 'Scooter' Libby, former aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, The Associated Press reports."
The Bush administration continues to amaze me with just how low it can sink. It reminds me of his pledge in 2000:

"I will restore integrity to the White House."

Bang up job so far, Mr. President.

Just did a search on Google News and turned up zero hits. If CNN got their news alert right, I suspect that will be changing pretty quickly. Reuters just barely got this up. (via Yahoo)

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